Suby & Sins House

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Suby In The House 

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This is another image for Stardog Champion Where do you think I took this shot? If you said in a studio, nope again, Took this shot in my living room.

What did I use for my lighting? 1 overhead 60w bulb, 1 reading lamp, lighting from the TV and flash. Hey don't laugh, it was not the best situation as far as the lighting was concerned, but I had to work it LOL.

As with yesterdays shot, I shot this in RAW, then I blended 3 (or was it 4) seperate exposures of the same shot (created from the RAW file), then I went to work on it with all the resources those guys at Photoshop have bestowed on us LOL

Once again, this is the Original image as it is off the camera. 

I should point out here that no matter just how good one is with any editing tools, if you have a DUFF image to work on,  you will still end up with a DUFF image even after PPing, the trick is to get it right 1st time. So when taking the shot people, GET IT RIGHT.

I always say, no matter the situation one is in, always utilize what you have got in hand to achieve a few greet images.

Photography & Words by Suby

"Ars longa, vita brevis."
 
P.s
Enforcer ...PIMP SSLLLAAAAPPPPP!!!!!  Why? Just cause I could and wanted to, this is the Substers House and I am the DADDY, Feel the force of my evilness catching up to you

One Eyed Look

Suby In The House 

See  policyofsubster

This is another image for Stardog Champion Where do you think I took this shot? If you said in a studio, nope again, Took this shot in my living room.

What did I use for my lighting? 1 overhead 60w bulb, 1 reading lamp, lighting from the TV and flash. Hey don't laugh, it was not the best situation as far as the lighting was concerned, but I had to work it LOL.

As with yesterdays shot, I shot this in RAW, then I blended 3 (or was it 4) seperate exposures of the same shot (created from the RAW file), then I went to work on it with all the resources those guys at Photoshop have bestowed on us LOL

Once again, this is the Original image as it is off the camera. 

I should point out here that no matter just how good one is with any editing tools, if you have a DUFF image to work on,  you will still end up with a DUFF image even after PPing, the trick is to get it right 1st time. So when taking the shot people, GET IT RIGHT.

I always say, no matter the situation one is in, always utilize what you have got in hand to achieve a few greet images.

Photography & Words by Suby

"Ars longa, vita brevis."
 
P.s
Enforcer ...PIMP SSLLLAAAAPPPPP!!!!!  Why? Just cause I could and wanted to, this is the Substers House and I am the DADDY, Feel the force of my evilness catching up to you

comments (43)

Wotcha, Cockle. I think your PP has harshened the original. A softer treatment would have complimented this shot. If I was your subject, I'd not be too flattered by this one but that's just my feminine side empathising..;~wink
Suby & Sinem: Actually the aim of the PP was to harshen the model, I wanted a down hard and trodden look but still keeping the elements of beauty. I looked at my images and seem to do too many soft clean shots, and I was inspired by some images I saw on a few sites. Thanks for the comments though.

Suby
OUCH! please post those url's of those sites smile

I feel suby that pp aside, the camera angle is not complimentary to the model, it makes her nose look rather looong.
Suby & Sinem: He he he he he, The Skeelooo in the house tongue Now on that one I actually disagree with you, don't do that often, but I love the angle and the way it accentuates the nose. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Suby
I prefer the original. I think if you left it unprocessed it would have been fine for me. That's what I think.
Suby & Sinem: I just knew you would prefer the original, don't get me wrong, I like the original myself but it did not captute the type of grunge sorta dark, and hard look I wanted hence the PPing. I know this may not be everyones cuppa tea, but for what I wanted it hits centre.

There may be times when as a photographer we have to produce different from the norm images, just want to be able to do that. The original is almost spot on, I do know just the tiniest of PPing would have made it swell, but would that have captured the look I was striving for, NO.
Suby
  • attah
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 15 Aug 2006, 01:30
oh subster. I went away for a while.. and I was looking forward to your blog with anticipation. I clicked and alas I was faced with this. ;-) Actually after dwelling on it a bit longer the eye does it for me. Only just ;-) Hope married life still treating you fine. I'm about to splash out on some serious piece of glass. Be prepared
Suby & Sinem: Hey attah, been a while, oh dear i hope I did not dissapoint you with this shot tongue

It was 100% intentional, just trying out different stuff, after all that is what this blog is all about. smile
So what new equipement are you buying?

Suby
  • Yẹni
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 15 Aug 2006, 01:41
not sure this works for me... but nice attempt
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Yeni, it is all part of the experimentation, will never progress if one does not try different stuff. Who knows, maybe if I do enough images like this it will grow on you and will soon be the norm (although I do not think I have the time to do too many images likes these tongue)

Suby
agree with Jide.
Suby & Sinem: I sorta agree with him to smile See my response to him above.

Thanks for visiting and commenting as always.
Suby
  • Ana
  • Brazil
  • 15 Aug 2006, 01:52
does not work for me and I almost see a moustache there... weird.
Suby & Sinem: LOL Ana, hey give it a little bit of time, promise you it will grow on you smile Thanks for the comment. smile

Suby
hey suby,

i like the way you framed her face with her hair, and i like the look. i also like the way the shadows fall on her face. however, i don't really like the lips and chin in this shot. can't put my finger on it, but i think that they are too pale.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Nicole, have a version where there is more colour to this shot, but it just did not work for me, so I toned down the colour saturation to give it this look, looked a lot more grungy and hard while retaining an element of beauty, I really am looking to doing more images like this, I like the loom and the feel so maybe I will turn you around.

P.s
Don't forget as always, IF I GET IT WRONG, let me know tongue No paying lip service to the Subster
  • AP
  • # 3 Bagshot Row, Hobbiton
  • 15 Aug 2006, 02:24
Like Dave I prefer the softer look of the original it is more flattering to the model but I respect what you were trying to do with the processing and feel you did achieve that goal. I really do like the angle. In the original it gives her a very demure feminine look. Sorry Subster but I just feel the original is the stronger image.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks AP, I do see sense it what you are saying about the original, I do have a more "normal" type edit of this image, but as you pointed out, I did have a goal in mind and this edit hit the mark. This for me is just another learning curve for me, knowing what I want to achieve and then setting about getting the look.

One thing you will notice on my blog is I do tend to experiment a lot, I love to try different things, I love creating different types of images, I know it may not always be to the liking of most people, but hey, then it would not be fun if I did not do it. The Subster attention span is extremely short, so to keep my own attention on my own blog, I have to attempt and strive to post those images that keep even me guessing and wondering, WHAT, HOW & WHY???? Now that for me if sun.

Or I could just stay in my comfort zone and post all those safe, keeping to the rules type portrait shots that I love, jezz, that would bore even me LOL tongue

Suby
  • Steve
  • United States
  • 15 Aug 2006, 03:36
I like the original more too. The softer feel really does great things for the overall feeling of the photograph. With all the shadows of this photo, I think the way it is closely cropped adds a very tense feeling to the picture, whereas the original, softer, photo uses the same framing as a way to add intimacy instead of intensity.
Suby & Sinem: Techie Steve just gave this simpleton Suby a headache LOL tongue

I get what you are saying and I do agree with you, but I do love the intense feeling of the PPed image, it sort of is in you face kinda shot as oppsed to the original which as you rightly pointed out is softer.

Thanks for dropping your HONEST opinion as always and keep them coming.

Suby
  • sk
  • UK
  • 15 Aug 2006, 06:41
interesting shot, I have to say I prefer the original
Suby & Sinem: Thanks bro tongue

I really am waiting for your next master piece thats taking you soo long to put together. Can't wait tongue

Suby
  • e etomi
  • Nigeria
  • 15 Aug 2006, 07:26
I like the framing...but not the PP...but like you said it was you aim to make it harsh.
Suby & Sinem: Nooo (he busrts out crying), E does not like the PPIng, going to sulk all day now tongue

Maybe it will grow on you tongue

Suby
  • MrC
  • Kernow
  • 15 Aug 2006, 07:58
there are bits of the PP i like (eg the eye area) .. but i'm preferring the softness of the original shot (hey it's early, i've been at work (in a craply lit basement) for hours, and i'm hungry (ok, so i don't know what that's got to do with anything!))
wink
Suby & Sinem: Your comments cracked me up MrC, seems most people are leaning towrads the original version, oh well, look on the broght side Suby, they are both your work you know. i will be experimenting on more images with similar PP to this cause funny thing is I do like the hard grunge dark look. Always please let me know what you think. I crave honest feedback on ever image.

Suby
A little on the 'dark' side (mood not lighting) which I like. It adds so much character to the shot. And great use of your available lighting! Portraits are not my strong point, I need these in my aresnal!! smile 8 out of 10
Suby & Sinem: Thanks for the comments Christian, rewally glad you,like this hot tongue

Suby
  • Diya
  • Switzerland
  • 15 Aug 2006, 08:13
Hi Suby

I guess it is the same model you post just a few days ago, I liked that one better.

On the other hand, you said that you wanted to make this one a bit harsh and I guess you succeeded, I can tell by all the reaction you got on it…

after all I like the shot (I don’t know the original) she has a great look in her (one) eye
Suby & Sinem: Yes it is, yup the responses have been (okay to use a positive spin) varied smile

Thanks for the comments as always

Suby
  • bruno
  • Sweden
  • 15 Aug 2006, 08:34
love this one, it littlebit like grunge shot, its great like this but i think that it may be nice in b-w too smile smile smile have a nice day bro´
Suby & Sinem: Brunao, you understand me bro smile it's okay in monochrome, but sorta preferred this one smile

Suby
Talk about A-tti-tude. It really comes through in this picture. But, hang on, a few things aren't quite right: first, something about the contrast makes the model's skin look more blemished than original pic; plus, the shadows (esp. on the right side of the model's nose), aren't too flattering. Also the shadows of the model's hair on her mouth area makes her look like she has a moustache (and a beard). All this isn't so obvious with the original which is softer but doesn't convey as much attitude sad which is probably the essence of this piture.

Still, your capture of "the look" is spot on esp. with the way the PP heightens her bleached hair and dark roots with black eyebrows and black liner (in the original, they're a softer brown) which add to the look/attitude.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Morenike, me glad you like it and taken on borad the other bits you have pointed out smile Thanks again.

Suby
  • The enforcer
  • the wormhole
  • 15 Aug 2006, 08:43
The PP has exaggerated her nose. There is a time to PP and there is a time to stop, you should have stopped young man. The original was fine. Again you get a pimp slap bcos U insist on slapping when "U can't see me". So here it comes, 'FEEL THE FORCE OF MY PIMP BACKHAND SLAP' geez ur face must be sore by now. The quality of ur shot fell today, better luck 2moro?
Suby & Sinem: The enforcer, Yup you sorta singing my song "There is a time to PP and there is a time to stop" The original was fine I know but it did not capture the essence of what I wanted to portray, so what I hear you saying is "If I cannot capture what I want via the camera, I shld not use my PP skills to enhance?" PIMP SLAP to you puny human, the quality of the Substers work is always 100% (at least in his eyes) & as I am still the DADDY, I post what I want, So there.

Suby tongue
It works for me !
Suby & Sinem: Glad it does, thanks for the comment
Suby
  • micki
  • United States
  • 15 Aug 2006, 10:51
Gotta say that I like the original better; but, having said that, I want to be sure you know that I do like this version. It looks like it was taken at a club, and I like the contrasty shadows.

Really enjoying these past two images, hope this is a series for the week.
Suby & Sinem: Eeeck, I think I have hit a wall, going to chill out from editing any new stuff and just post images I have queued up. Had a couple of other images I was going to post up as tips for Stardog but think that will have to wait tongue

Suby
  • Sidney
  • Philippines
  • 15 Aug 2006, 11:07
I agree with the majority. The original was better. Maybe a bit too soft but you went over the edge with your PS tricks!
And now I understand why she doesn't smile at you ! ;-)
Suby & Sinem: smile
She actually loves this shot. Thanks for the comment bro.

Suby
  • petra
  • Netherlands
  • 15 Aug 2006, 12:07
I prefer this one... i like the pp...one thing..maybe the shadow is a bit to dark imho
Suby & Sinem: I actually had a version that had a softer tone and lighter shado, but it did not look grunge and hard enough to me, hence this tongue

Suby
The processed image is haunting. But overall it's a lil too messy for my liking. If you wished to overprocess to get a radically different look from the original, then you'd have to make it really clean and graphical. Anyway the lighting was too poor for you to do something dramatic in the postprocessing stage as well.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks for the comments bro, well appreciated smile

Suby
  • Mia
  • United States
  • 15 Aug 2006, 13:08
Ah, I like the original a LOT. For the PP'd shot, the nose stands out for me, while I think the main focus was on the eyes.

And your lightening technique... that's how its done! You've gotta move around the house and get every light you can possibly move around smile
Suby & Sinem: Thanks mia, I really have to invstes in Bowens Light kit very soon.

Suby
I prefer the original without a doubt!!
Suby & Sinem: Awwwww, not fair sad

LOL
Suby
The enforcer is causing drama all over shutterchance, not sure I'm feeling this one bro
Suby & Sinem: Well look at the image a little bit more bro, It will grow on you.

Suby
  • Roger
  • United States
  • 15 Aug 2006, 13:32
Great portrait Suby. Love the colors
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Roger, glad you like this smile

Mixed comments on this shot today tongue

Suby
  • Frank
  • Germany
  • 15 Aug 2006, 14:46
This is very intense, I like what you do with this beautiful photo. Very interesting look.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks frank, i am glad you like this image.. Thanks for the vist as well.
Suby
  • Laurie
  • United States
  • 15 Aug 2006, 15:25
I think this lighting effect is too harsh and not particularly flattering to her face. The original while a little too soft was much more flattering to her beautiful face. I know I would like a softer version if it were me in the shot. smile
Suby & Sinem: Funny is she prefers the harsher one, Thing with this shot is everyone has a soft nice (boring) shot like the original, once in a while I would like to be able to present people with unique one off images that hopefully will not be in every home, hence my journey into trying to find out how I can actually achieve this. tongue

Safe in my opinion bores me, out of the let say 50 frames I took of the model, of which I believe there are better images, why did I cjhoose to post and edit this image in this way? Cause it would stand out smile Might not always be for the right reasons, but it would stand out. tongue

Suby
  • Azhar
  • India
  • 15 Aug 2006, 16:03
Exactly what Laurie siad, couldnt have slapped you better grin
Suby & Sinem: He he he he he he he, young man, learn smile

Suby
Looks like a vamp ;-)
Suby & Sinem: LOL, that scary? she will not be happy to hear that tongue

Suby
Gotta be honest. I'm not so sure I'm a fan on this one. Colourtone, depth of field, angle. It doesn't work for me. But that's just me smile Then again i'm not a big portrait taker so what do I know?
Suby & Sinem: No u must like it, you must like it, please like it, Suby will be nice LOL Oh well, maybe you may like another image from the Subster, you can't win all the time. As always THANK YOU your honest feedback.

Suby
  • Visual Vault
  • Sitting on a rock in outer space
  • 15 Aug 2006, 17:52
Suby, You had a good thing going there with the origional, the angle is a bit weird, but the DOF is workable... but what happened? You had a good starting point, you did the whole multi exposure thing sure, i get where you were trying to go with this, not a bad concept.. but what happened? you've got grey patches, especially in her hair, you've got a bad clone mark across the hair as well, you've got something funky happening with the red on her neck, you've got stray hairs in the top right corner that are very brightly lit and quite distracting... Overall.. not a good editing job on a shot that had alot of potential... Sorry Suby.. I agree you should get it right the first time.. but you almost had it and you missed the mark I think...

-V V-
Suby & Sinem: VV has gone to town on the Subster tongue Will try to please VV on the next portrait I post up (thats if I don't go vcrazy wath the PP agaiin tongue )

Actually thought of posting the "safe & normal" edit of this shot I did but decided against it. Funny thing, is the more I look at this edit the more I like it, funny tongue

Thanks for the comments bro, as always please keep them coming.

Suby
Very professional feel, love the framing and the dof. Stonking shot, i must say ;-)
Suby & Sinem: Thank you very Much Ashish, I am glad you like it

Suby
  • timmybomb
  • Vancouver, Canada
  • 15 Aug 2006, 18:56
One of the things I am looking forward to about having an SLR is the ability to work in the RAW format. I was reading a chapter in my Photoshop book about RAW and I was blown away with how much you can manipulate an image, especially the white balance. It's interesting to see an example of it here.

I keep going back an forth between the original and this version of the photo. I'm still formulating an opinion. I like the composition a lot. I think the way you framed it, really tight with only one eye showing, is fantastic. I'm impressed with what you were able to do with it, considering the lighting situations.

I'm not sure why you are directing this photo at Stardog. Are you trying to teach him how to make the most of difficult lighting situations? If so, I'm not sure how this particular image helps him. As far as I can tell, the Champ is using a basic point and shoot camera, with little or no post processing. The original of this photo looks washed out, with a lack of contrast. You did a good job of rescuing it with Photoshop, but the Champ isn't afforded such opportunities.

Whatever the case, I am yet again humbled by your Photoshop abilities. I tend to think you have over done this one a bit, but that's just my humble opinion. I think the dark eyelashes and pupil are a little overboard. The composition, however, is fanstastic.

Cheerio, Timmy

PS, my portrait is ready for your unceremonious disemboweling.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Timmy,

The Champ has now upgraded to a DSLR, so hence the little tutorials, I want him to understand what he can achive just by understanding his equipements, lightings and what he can and cannot achieve.

As to the shot, I took it that way intentionally knowing what I was going to do to the shot, As to me overdoing it, the aim was to take it to the limit while still retaining the beauty of the shot, it's all subjective you know, I will say that I DO NOT PP most of my shots (jezz who has the time), it's only the odd ones that I play with tongue For me learning all I can about photoshop is not cause I want to PP my shots to high heaven and back, but cause I want to know what to do if I am ever called upon to use these skills. So the blog is a place for experiments, sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong, but hey that why I have lovely people like you to keep me on the straight and narrow tongue

Suby
  • Zeta
  • Mexico
  • 15 Aug 2006, 21:54
I love this shot!!!
  • adebanji
  • Trinidad and Tobago
  • 15 Aug 2006, 22:06
She looks like she is or was in rehab
Was she?
  • johnz
  • Cyprus
  • 15 Aug 2006, 22:25
that's an eerie (purple-reddish) color in her eyes
  • Nick
  • Netherlands
  • 16 Aug 2006, 05:35
So much work to get an image you like. It might have been easier to follow your own advice and get it right in the camera. Sorry, I know that this is 20/20 hindsight, but for me this image is over-processed; everything's too harsh.
  • faustina
  • United States
  • 16 Aug 2006, 11:10
I really like the intensity in her eye, well done. I think the tones aren't flattering to her skin, but they may well be the look you wanted. I really like it, and your processing.

How did you get the intense stare out of her? What I always do to get a great look is have the subject close his/her eyes for a few seconds and just open them, when they are ready, with a fierce look right into the camera. To me it looks like you got that same great effect.

well done.
  • Alicia
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 19 Aug 2006, 02:55
I like the deep intense look you caught in her eye. I like both versions. The original is soft and lovely, but the processed version is edgy and attention grabbing.
  • Emr
  • United States
  • 21 Aug 2006, 20:37
The blur of the hair looks unnatural, since the yellow color looks darker with the applied blur (post-processing?). Notice that there is an area with horizontal displacement.

+aesthetics, +composition, -originality
  • Kris
  • Belgium
  • 22 Aug 2006, 09:55
Excellent portrait.. love it!

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