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Me continuing on my journey to images one does not expect from the Subster or as some people have called it "Sinem type shots". 

Thanks all for the advise yesterday, it really was helpfull, next time I go out to shoot these type of images, I will try to incorporate all the advise and tips I have received. In the meantime here is another different "did Suby really take this shot image?" LOL

Now this is one of those few non people shots of mine I really am proud of. Don't know why I just seem to like it. now it's your turn humble lovely veiwer (yes I am sucking up to you again lol).....

                                                                     what say you?

Words and photography by Suby

"Ars longa, vita brevis."

Dark Castle

See  policyofsubster

Me continuing on my journey to images one does not expect from the Subster or as some people have called it "Sinem type shots". 

Thanks all for the advise yesterday, it really was helpfull, next time I go out to shoot these type of images, I will try to incorporate all the advise and tips I have received. In the meantime here is another different "did Suby really take this shot image?" LOL

Now this is one of those few non people shots of mine I really am proud of. Don't know why I just seem to like it. now it's your turn humble lovely veiwer (yes I am sucking up to you again lol).....

                                                                     what say you?

Words and photography by Suby

"Ars longa, vita brevis."

comments (29)

  • Hamilton
  • United States
  • 26 Sep 2006, 00:25
Great composition, great perspective, nicely done... What's happening with the sky, at the top right corner of the castle/fort, just through that window?
Suby & Sinem: Thanks for the comment bro, whats happening, me not know grin

Suby
  • Intern
  • USA
  • 26 Sep 2006, 00:29
This is brilliant!
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Intern, Me smiling smile

Suby
Okay....you ready to have it again?

I think your pp work is a bit weak here....sorry not the colouring but there are some nasty Halos that are sticking out of the tall pillars on both sides. You might want to be a bit careful there Subs. Why didn't you use the "colour range" option in the "Select" menu? You can get better results that way.

The least you could have done is centred yourself with the road leading to the tunnel.

Give me something better tomorrow, Suby I challenge you!!!!
Suby & Sinem: Ahhhh, what is it going to take to please this Alakija fella? (huge sigh) grin

Suby
Oh! And I say so because you have it in you.
  • marc
  • south africa
  • 26 Sep 2006, 01:20
nice blue sky, actually nice colors all over, just out of interest , why shoot at 800? just out of curiousity..seems there was enough light (1/6400)..
Suby & Sinem: Why shoot at that ISO, one of those time I was just being lazy, Just taken shots in the castle and bumbed up ISO, stepped out to take this and did not change ISO as I was still going back in smile

Suby
Nice picture, but why do you have the haziness along the outlines of the castle (or what's left of the castle)?
Suby & Sinem: Maybe its Suby's PPing grin

Suby
  • timmybomb
  • Vancouver, Canada
  • 26 Sep 2006, 02:38
Lovely greens and blues Suby. I feel pretty bad about carving you up these days, since you are moving out of your comfort zone to bring us a new variety of images. I feel bad about it, but I'm going to carve you anyway. What would a visit from Timmybomb be without a good dose of pure, unadulterated grumpiness?

Let's start with your exposure settings. What's up with the huge aperture of f/5.0? You had all the light you could want, so why not close it right down to f/22? On a shot like this depth of field is important. I know you naturally get a decent DoF when shooting at a wide angle, but still, you may as well squeeze out every bit of depth you can get. I won't question your ASA rating of ISO800, since there is no apparent noise in the image.

As far as the composition is concerned, it seems to lack depth. I think it would be better if the building was photographed from an angle. This would provide a sense of depth and balance. The picnic table bugs me. Although it provides some scale, it seems out of place. There seem to be some lovely woolly creatures in the field, perhaps they could have been better featured in order to provide the sense of scale.

I recognize that the time of day was rather prohibitive. You couldn't have taken several steps to the right in order to photograph some of the right side of the building because the right wall was completely in shadows. I assume you were visiting this site more as a tourist than as a photographer. As a tourist, we have to be sensitive to the people we are traveling with (usually our wives). They don't want to put up with us waiting four hours for the lighting to improve. And they get positively embarrassed when we climb fences and wander through private fields so we can get a better composition.

Due to the aforementioned assumed restrictions, this photo comes off looking more like a snapshot than a well thought out composition. When the average person views such a photograph, they don't think "that's not bad for two o'clock in the afternoon." They think "that's okay, I guess". They don't know why, but they just know it's not a top notch photo.

From what I have seen here on your site, it is clear that your comfort zone is with people and their immediate environments. When shooting people, it is much easier to control the lighting (especially when shooting in RAW). In fact, I believe one of your strongest attributes is your ability to manipulate lighting to present portraits in a very creative way.

When shooting things on a grander scale (such as landscapes) one has to rely on Mother Nature for the lighting. I know you hate the idea of getting up early mate, but that is when the lighting is best. The evening is pretty good too. If this photo had been taken when there was soft light on the right side of the castle you would have had way more flexibility in your composition options.

I feel funny lecturing the great Lord Vader in this manner, but these are things I have learned by taking some terrible photos (several of which you have called me on). I know that you already know these things (particularly the lighting issues), but I believe they are of the utmost importance.

I do congratulate you on your willingness to reach out beyond your comfort zone and take some "Sinem type shots". I need to learn from you and try to take some "Suby type shots", namely, portraits. I probably won't though, because I'm terrified of people...

Thanks for putting your work out here for all to see. Analyzing your photos helps me to analyze mine before I ever press the shutter.

Cheers,
Tim
Suby & Sinem: Another of the Timmy roast grin What is a day without one? (not complete). Yup was in tourist mode when snapping, but also in photographer mode, yup nature and landscapes not really my thing, but will make it my thing, only with kicks up the backside when I am not on point will I learn. I still find it hard to understand what & how people see these shots, me not claim to know but as with everything in life, only with lots of practice can one learn, so here I am practicing grin

That being said, If I actually took this shot again, I probably would take it the same way (not with ISO800 as was too lazy to change it), I just liked the bench in the scene and the sheeps on the side. However I will now take other shots with all the advise and tips I have received. Hey keep the comments coming, me learning.

Suby
hey suby,

i love the colors and the tones in this shot. the contrast, between the green grass, blue sky, and brown/grey castle, is perfect. the details- the flag, the sheep, the picnic table are great. however, i think that the castle could stand to be a bit more to the right. there is a bit too much dead space on the right, and the castle looks kind of crowded on the left.
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Nicole, as with most of my shots, I really do not like to crop on the PC unless it's absolutely essential, I do hear what you saying about the crop, I actually tried it but seemed to just like it this way (I am weird like that grin), Thanks for the tips smile

Suby
  • AP
  • East Jesus (just south of BF Egypt)
  • 26 Sep 2006, 03:48
Daggone Subster, that hit it on the head. I've been looking at these images and they ar Sinem type images. You and her have truly become one. This series illustrates it perfectly. Well done.
Suby & Sinem: She growing on me smile Thanks Bro.

Suby
  • Laurie
  • United States
  • 26 Sep 2006, 04:04
The composition is pretty good. But your EXIF data is a big ?. ISO 800??? F5 well, it can happen, so meh, but at ISO 800???

I do see some abberrations in the sky to the left and right where the blue gets lighter toward the horizon. I can't help wondering if it's from the high ISO.

There are also some more annoying smudges in the sky. Is your sensor in need of a cleaning perhaps or was the lens in need of a cleaning? The 2 smudges aren't as big or noticable as the one in yesterday's, but there are 2 of them this time. One is just to the right of the castle about 1/2 way up the height of the castle and 1/4 of the way over into the blue and the other is about 1/2 into the blue almost even with the top of the castle's right top edge. It's not my screen because the smudges move when I scroll.

I think you need to take the same approach when you do these as you do when you take portraits. Really pay attention to the camera's settings...I forget too...it's an easy thing to forget at times, but I rarely forget the ISO setting.

Again midday light is tough to work with for landscapes, so consider late afternoon or early morning. smile
Suby & Sinem: All points taken and understood Ma'am smile

Suby
  • Laurie
  • United States
  • 26 Sep 2006, 04:07
PS...You shoot in full manual, didn't the settings cause you to want to check your ISO???
Suby & Sinem: I know, but could not be bothered to change the ISO as I was stepping in & out of the castle and was sharing the camera with Sinem who only shot in AV at that time, so fiddling around with my ISO everytime was not really important smile

Suby
  • Samarth
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 26 Sep 2006, 06:49
its the lighting, prob with landscapes is that lighting always messes you up...best thing to do then is to have some levels in the sky or do a b/w...its very well shot but just a bit weak on the pp side...7/10
Suby & Sinem: Lighting was fine, I do have a monochrome version (as I always do of most of my shots). I actually initially posted up the monochrome version but felt that was a cop out so posted the colour version, any more levels in the sky and a little too much springs to mind tongue

Suby
  • E Etomi
  • Nigeria
  • 26 Sep 2006, 09:54
Ohh Suby's getting it. Tell him people lol, just kidding. I agree that you should have moved slightly to the right to have a better view though.
Suby & Sinem: You are enjoying it aren't you? Say the truth, yes you are, I can see the sniggere and the glee in your face grin

SUby
  • E Etomi
  • Nigeria
  • 26 Sep 2006, 09:54
I mean to the left....I have to raise my hands to know which way is right or left. I'm told im not the only one with this prob smile
Suby & Sinem: Funny, I like the crop just this way, standing to the left or right, eeck, emmmm, maybe next tme I am there I will give it a try grin

Suby
  • Steve
  • United Kingdom
  • 26 Sep 2006, 10:12
I don't have a problem with the composition, although it's not particularly rivetting. As for the F5 & 1/6400, if you'd stuck the camera on any setting other than manual, you'd have got a better mix without having to think about it. You *can* be a *real* photographer without using manual-mode smile

The photo is suffering from the really strong sun which has blocked up the shadows. Also, this has got all the hallmarks of having been underexposed by at least a stop. I think that's why you've worked on the sky so much, which has caused the dark edges round the castle and also the apparent smudges in the sky (not sensor dust at F5). I also think the field with the sheep is so dark because you didn't lighten it up like the other bits you worked on. If it were lighter it would balance the composition more, so the picnic table wouldn't be so intrusive.

If I'm right about the underexposure, I think you'd have been better off getting the right lightness out of the raw converter and then blending in a darker version of the castle rather than the opposite.

Sorry Suby, for me this has the potential of being a 'pleasant scene', but for that the PP would have to be completely invisible.
Suby & Sinem: I shoot in AV sometimes, but had to stick to shooting in manual so as to know who took what shots as Sinem and I where sharing the camera smile

Have about 6 different edits of this shot, I just tended to like this edit, maybe I send you the edit I know you will like smile
Suby
  • micki
  • United States
  • 26 Sep 2006, 10:22
Wow!! How old is this place? We don't have anything like that around here.

Lovely blue skies here and green grass looks nice as well. Did you take this recently?
  • Funmi
  • 26 Sep 2006, 11:03
idyllic...
Suby & Sinem: Funmi thanks smile Do visit and comment again.

Suby
  • Chantal
  • Netherlands
  • 26 Sep 2006, 12:03
beautiful castle, nice framing.
  • Sola
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 26 Sep 2006, 12:36
Almost unreal, brochure type stuff. Cool
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Bro, wo where your post for today? :d

Suby
  • Sidney
  • Philippines
  • 26 Sep 2006, 13:06
The problem with non people shots is that they need to be perfect or else they just don't drag the attention of the viewer.
You can take pictures of flowers but make sure they are better than the thousands of flower shots that I already saw on so many blogs.
It is a bit the same with that castle. Not bad but I didn't say: WOOOW!
To be honest, I hope you go back SOON to what you do best, portraits, street shots and people. Do we really need to master it all?
Suby & Sinem: Thanks Sidney, nope I do not need to master it all, just wanted to ensure I am at leasy average when taking shots like these smile It's always fun to try shots like these, makes the blog more interesting me thinks, thanks for the comment and advise bro smile

Suby
  • nev
  • Australia
  • 26 Sep 2006, 13:42
Suby i am not going to rant as a fair bit has been said already. If i was presented with this shot there are 3 things that would appeal. The shape of the castle, the contrast in colours of the lovely blue sky and green grass and the wonderful mix of textures. The track does lead our eye but the right corner of the castle draws our eye to the right. I would be happy to have this picture as my own but there a some more pictures here. Ones that accentuate more the colours, shapes or textures. i think you have also seen these things but have just not found the thing that appealed to you most. nice photo
Great building and a fine shot of it!
Back again after a great three weeks in Italy: you'll see the photos of that vacation starting in a few days.
Nice one...I love the contrast.
A nice ambiance in this one !
Hi Suby,
I like the contrast of the sky. Nice.
  • wale
  • United Kingdom
  • 26 Sep 2006, 21:03
Hi. Been some time i know. Not for too long i hope. Nice bright picture. But what is that halo or shadow around the building itself?
great shot...love the detail and the perspectivesmile)
Lovely colors! I think you took an ordinary image and made it extraordinary in processing. Good work!
  • Olivier LeFleur
  • France
  • 27 Sep 2006, 08:12
Your image is overprocessed and oversharpened, as seen particularly in the details around the castle. The bench on the grass shows how the oversharpening ruined what could have been a good photograph.

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